“The interceptions? A barbarism, we will intervene radically. Our interlocutor is the CSM, from Anm interference»- Corriere.it

“We we will intervene on interceptions much more radically. That this is a barbarism that costs 200 million euros a year to achieve minimal results is there for all to see». So the Minister of Justice Charles Nordio
at Taobuk in Taormina. “We spend a colossal amount – he added – on investigations that achieve minimal results, among other things ruining people’s lives. I would like to remind you that the law prevents the publication of judicial documents. They are published anyway and nobody says anything. But the law is already there. «The police drafts – continued Nordio – should never appear because the current law provides that these drafts must be deposited before the investigating judge and must be transcribed in the form of the expert report and in the contradictory of the parties. Because very often the police draft, the one that ended up in the newspapers in the meantime, is wrong. Because perhaps the interception is transcribed and interpreted by a marshal of Venice who does not understand what two Sicilians are saying and was wrong in understanding what they are saying. And then – the minister underlined – it turns out, with the transcript of the expert report, that everything written in the newspapers is wrong. I’m not saying false, which is deceptive, but it was wrong.”

Trojans

«Let’s use a part of the resources for useless interceptions on ordinary citizens and move them to investigations into major organized crime. It is a discussion we had with the anti-mafia prosecutor Melillo. Because we are technologically backward. I intend to strengthen interceptions on the mafia but resources are needed,” said Nordio. And he added: “We are years behind on technology that large criminal organizations use, because we don’t have the money to pay for the tools that intercept criminal organizations, which are far ahead of the technology – says Nordio – The same trojan which today is considered the best of the best, or the worst of the worst, it’s super exceeded. Organized crime uses systems that we can’t intercept today because we don’t have the money to do it

The abuse of office

« If Europe were to ask us for a sort of remodeling of our repressive integrated system, we are willing to accept it, but not in the form in which the abuse of office existed, which was so evanescent atypical as to have no equal, other, in no other European legal system”.

Judges in politics

«Both Cafiero De Raho and Pietro Grasso immediately entered politics after leaving their position as public prosecutor without the settling-down period that would be necessary. There are many names. At the time I had told him that the magistrate should never engage in politics, then I thought that after 5 years from the transfer of my job in the judiciary this settling could justify the fact of assuming a government office. But these people who entered politics immediately, after leaving the judiciary, have conditioned their vision of the world. But they are contradicted by many others who say the opposite, lawyers, academics, mayors”.

The Anm

«The institutional interlocutor of the Government and of politics is not the union, but the CSM. If a magistrate individually believes that from his point of view a law is wrong from a technical point of view, no one has the right to say that he interferes “, underlined Nordio regarding the statements of the president of the ANM Joseph Santalucia on justice reform. «In this case, however, it is the representative of a union of magistrates who had pronounced a series of very severe criticisms even before the text of the bill was officially known. These things mean interference for me,” the Keeper of the Seals said.

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